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	<title>Comments on: Grammar, the Lost Years. Was it Really Banished?</title>
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		<title>By: mohadoha</title>
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		<dc:creator>mohadoha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;During an extended family trip to India, I missed about half of the third grade. I think grammar was covered in this part. Handwriting certainly was (hence my terrible script). Nothing really in high school as I was in advanced language arts classes. I became an English double major by default: all my electives were in English and my other major, Psychology no longer interested me as a profession. There was an English Language class (I think it was called) where sentences were diagrammed. And it was the hardest part of my college career. It was the only B I got in my major all four years. I just had no concept of the terms (gerund was the easiest of the new bunch) and the branches of the various parts of the sentences were even more impossible. I had been using language my whole life; I didn&#039;t understand what I was doing, I just did it. This is what I&#039;m trying to be more self-aware of now as a writer. I even have a copy of ELEMENTS.... but I gave it away to an Irish friend that wanted help with grammar. I think the Europeans (to use a stereotype) are generally better at this than Americans?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During an extended family trip to India, I missed about half of the third grade. I think grammar was covered in this part. Handwriting certainly was (hence my terrible script). Nothing really in high school as I was in advanced language arts classes. I became an English double major by default: all my electives were in English and my other major, Psychology no longer interested me as a profession. There was an English Language class (I think it was called) where sentences were diagrammed. And it was the hardest part of my college career. It was the only B I got in my major all four years. I just had no concept of the terms (gerund was the easiest of the new bunch) and the branches of the various parts of the sentences were even more impossible. I had been using language my whole life; I didn&#8217;t understand what I was doing, I just did it. This is what I&#8217;m trying to be more self-aware of now as a writer. I even have a copy of ELEMENTS&#8230;. but I gave it away to an Irish friend that wanted help with grammar. I think the Europeans (to use a stereotype) are generally better at this than Americans?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Edel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Edel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I remember about three or four years that included grammar as part of Reading class (I think 4th-8th grades, 1990-1994, though I&#039;m not sure which years).  We diagrammed sentences, had to put our spelling words into sentences (even as late as 6th grade...at the time it seemed pointless, but now I wonder...).  In high school I had one teacher who made a point of correcting common grammar mistakes so that the whole class could see how sentences should be written.  So there are still a few schools out there that teach grammar and hold students to the standard, but I couldn&#039;t guess how many (I went to public school programs - but I&#039;m pretty sure most of the other schools - public and private both - were not teaching grammar).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember about three or four years that included grammar as part of Reading class (I think 4th-8th grades, 1990-1994, though I&#8217;m not sure which years).  We diagrammed sentences, had to put our spelling words into sentences (even as late as 6th grade&#8230;at the time it seemed pointless, but now I wonder&#8230;).  In high school I had one teacher who made a point of correcting common grammar mistakes so that the whole class could see how sentences should be written.  So there are still a few schools out there that teach grammar and hold students to the standard, but I couldn&#8217;t guess how many (I went to public school programs &#8211; but I&#8217;m pretty sure most of the other schools &#8211; public and private both &#8211; were not teaching grammar).</p>
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		<title>By: Terri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was in school in the &#039;70s and I never diagrammed a sentence in my life. There was a brief period, about two weeks, when the regular teacher was out with a broken ankle. The substitute just gave us a grammer book to work through until her stint was over, but I learned more in those two weeks than the rest of the twelve years.&lt;br /&gt;
The problem with grammer is it keeps changing. Language constantly evolves and what we were told was written in stone, um..., wasn&#039;t. So depending on when your teacher was in school herself, your papers are graded differently.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in school in the &#8217;70s and I never diagrammed a sentence in my life. There was a brief period, about two weeks, when the regular teacher was out with a broken ankle. The substitute just gave us a grammer book to work through until her stint was over, but I learned more in those two weeks than the rest of the twelve years.<br />
The problem with grammer is it keeps changing. Language constantly evolves and what we were told was written in stone, um&#8230;, wasn&#8217;t. So depending on when your teacher was in school herself, your papers are graded differently.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Willkomm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne Willkomm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was in school during the 80&#039;s and while we studied grammar, I skipped a book going from public school to private and I found that no one but the English teacher (and most of the times he didn&#039;t either), ever corrected for grammar. so where did that leave me and a number of other classmates?  Fearful of taking a college writing class -- where I might have actually learned something.  It wasn&#039;t until many many years later that I actually allowed myslef to push through that fear and tackle writing...bad grammar and all.  I&#039;ve learned a great deal from many people (particularly Bill) along the way and I have still more to grasp, but I&#039;m no longer afraid.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in school during the 80&#8242;s and while we studied grammar, I skipped a book going from public school to private and I found that no one but the English teacher (and most of the times he didn&#8217;t either), ever corrected for grammar. so where did that leave me and a number of other classmates?  Fearful of taking a college writing class &#8212; where I might have actually learned something.  It wasn&#8217;t until many many years later that I actually allowed myslef to push through that fear and tackle writing&#8230;bad grammar and all.  I&#8217;ve learned a great deal from many people (particularly Bill) along the way and I have still more to grasp, but I&#8217;m no longer afraid.</p>
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